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Anonymous understands that there are intense emotions on all sides of the gun debate, but is certain that if the gun control crowd had its way, America would be even less safe than it is today.

 

 

Gun Insanity

by Anonymous

It is a natural, but unfortunate reaction anytime there's a tragedy as bad as the one on the Northern Illinois University campus to hear the chorus of voices crying out for a gun ban. Easy to see why. Seven people were killed, including the gunman who opened fire on a classroom full of students before he shot himself. Ban the guns, say the people for gun control. Snap, snap -- there it is, problem solved. The gun lobby is too powerful and politicians must stand up to them. It's simple, pass more laws and get tough with people who happen to believe in the Second Amendment and presto, no more shootings.

 

The unhappy reality is that all the nation's unworkable gun laws have left too many people too vulnerable and explains why the students who were killed never had a chance. Gun advocates point out that the shooting at N.I.U. happened in what's called a gun free zone. Those are places where gun restrictions are extremely high. The irrefutable proof that the restrictions do not work is the shooting itself. The regulation could not prevent the killer, or anyone else who acquires a gun, from entering a gun free zone.

 

What if well trained, law abiding citizens with the option to carry guns were allowed on the N.I.U. campus? Think about it. If just one student in that classroom had a weapon, there's at least a chance that the gunman might have been the only person killed. Instead the unarmed students did not stand a chance. Interesting that you never hear about these types of shootings at a gun range, or gun show. Wonder why? Oh, that's right, no one would dare. One individual said it well during a recent news report about guns. "An armed society is a polite society." Stands to reason. What thug wants to try to stick-up an individual who just might be packin' heat? Not many. Crooks are dumb, but not that dumb.

 

There still is that hope from the naive that enough laws will cause guns to disappear. Unfortunately for the ban-the-guns crowd, there is no way to remove guns from society. Sure, you can make them difficult, or just about impossible for responsible people to buy, but the result is criminals will have them and they will pay a premium to own them. The black market will thrive, law abiding people will be at risk and society will be that much worse.

 

One big problem is that too many people believe the gun itself as the source of social angst, but this argument is hollow and easy to overcome. Drunk or irresponsible drivers kill tens of thousands of people every year, but it is not the car that's the problem, it's the bad driver. Well trained, responsible people have a right to drive cars. Makes sense, right. Anyone want to ban cars? Not really, but ban cars and you'll never have accidents. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

Jennifer Bishop from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence recently addressed some matters involving gun control and made better sense than many who share her views. She is a bright, concerned woman who suffered personal tragedy because of guns and does not entirely see eye-to-eye with Anonymous, but outlined some worthwhile points that bear strong consideration. She was right to say that no individuals with a criminal or mental health history should be allowed to own guns and America should develop a way to efficiently accomplish background checks. She also believes, along with the people at the Brady Center that there are too few mechanisms in place to prevent illegal weapons transactions.

 

All that's fine, but that can never interfere with a responsible individual's right to legally own firearms. That's about to be tested because the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case that could shape gun law in America for generations. The case involves Dick Heller and a group of others who live in a dangerous Washington D.C. neighborhood, who wanted to own handguns. Ultimately, an appeals court ruled that the city's ban on handguns was illegal and now, the Supreme Court will decide the matter, probably this Summer. Unless the Justices figure out a way to strike the Second Amendment from the Constitution, you can expect some allowances for people to own guns.

 

That's how it should be. Solid citizens with guns will not lead the nation to a return to the wild west, with shoot-outs on every other street corner reminiscent of the O.K. corral. Like it or not, the ability for honest people to arm and protect themselves is a fundamental right. The Senior Editor of Gun Week said it well: "Our nation was founded on a principle of liberty. You take the good with the bad. That doesn't mean we can rachet down on a particular civil right simply because it's unpopular. It doesn't work that way in this country."

 

You cannot snip away the parts of basic rights that some people do not like. They are there because they are essential to maintain freedom. Remove the individual's right to protect himself or herself and you will give rise to tyranny. It's worked for dictators and despots, but Americans have rights, including access to guns and thankfully the will to fight the forces as well as the people who think they can take away that fundamental freedom.

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therman4 read my blog
Feb 18, 2008 | 3:45 PM

The NIU rampage by a mentally unstable individual who opted to discontinue taking his medication is multi-faceted problem. Gun control won't necessarily help situations like this. I still question, why assault weapons, clips and ammunition are considered legal, since this category is meant not to protect or to hunt animals and game, but rather to hunt down humans, causing the most damage possible. The other issue has to do with the under-reporting or no reporting at all of those individuals who are mental defectives and who shouldn't have the right to acquire any type of legal firearm. The other issue is the blame on those who know a mental defective who has stopped taking their medication and who now pose a threat to themselves, but more importantly pose a real danger to the unsuspecting and innocent public. There should be laws involving people who must take medication to stabilize their mental instability and when they stop, should be incarcerated in a mental institution. The families and friends of these unstable individuals are as much to blame for the outcome of murderous rampages like the one in NIU, Virginia Tech and all other locations. Let's stop trying to analyze and figure out what went wrong. We know what went wrong and it wasn't so much the case of gun control.

valentinemartin read my blog
Feb 18, 2008 | 4:59 PM

This tragedy exposes many of the stigmas of people with mental illness. This indivivual with a serious illness was left alone to fend for himself because he had a mental disability. If he had cancer, diabetes, kidney disease or any of a host of diseases, he would have had organizations rallying for him, fund raisers, etc. to assist him in his time of need. Mental illiness is still mis-understood and persons with mental illness are ridiculed, shamed, and are often the victims of vicious criminal attacks, often with no repercussions for the attacker because the person attacked won't be believed and is too often dismissed with a "did you take your medication today?", "well go take it or maybe we need to change it to something that is more effective." When these people lash out - we get situations such as this. The security at the school was also bad, the doors were supposed to be locked, they were not. A thief could have stolen thousands of dollars of school equipment because of their lack of security or God-forbid, in these days of terrorist attacks, how many lives could have been taken or damaged forever, if a terrorist group had happened upon the lack of security at NIU that day? This is not an issue of gun-control. 1. This mentally challenged person should have been getting treated for his illness just as a person with any other illness - a TV Sitcom aired shortly after this tragedy, showing mentally ill people thinking they were chickens, invisible, wearing strait jackets and other sickening sterotypes of persons with mental illness. 2. Security at NIU should be corre

Tango7
Feb 19, 2008 | 11:09 PM

But in addition to the obvious violent antisocial behavior exhibited by the shooters in college shooting incidents, a more subtle indication of mental illness is the repetition of a bahvaior, believing that eventually you will obtain a different result.

Sounds a lot like the folks who are calling for yet more gun control and laws, despite its proven effectiveness at stopping criminals from getting guns and of laws at preventing crimes.

mrcrab read my blog
Feb 23, 2008 | 9:14 PM

Only in America can you pay to go to school or go shopping and be forced by law not to protect yourself, you can be shot to death for no reason at any given time or place.

God for bid if the government found out you were packing heat to protect yourself, you would be arrested and put in jail. So another words the government says it's OK for those criminals to carry weapons and kill the unarmed and get away with it.

I say the hell with U.S. government and their laws because they don't protect any of us. Just take a look back at 9/11. What in the hell did they do to prevent that? Not a damn thing!

The government just wants to be able to control each and everyone of us like pupets by unarming us so we can't defend ourselfs and put cameras up at every corner and claim it's to fight crime when actually it's so they can watch our every move. They track our whereabouts by our cell phones and the IPASS. And last but not least, the government rasies the taxes to gain more control over us financially. They are the ones killing the economy and causing people to foreclose on their homes and be forced to live with relatives or in cardboard boxes while they get rich.

Well I don't own a gun, but I feel that if people want to carry guns with them to protect themselves from the bad guys I say go for it. Why should people have to live in fear because of some idiots deciding how we should live and be controled.

Lets say you're shopping and your kids are at school and some goof decides to hold up the store you're in and starts shooting and the thought of your kids never seeing

mrcrab read my blog
Feb 23, 2008 | 9:20 PM

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you again flashes before your eyes just before you're killed. You can thank those wonderful law-makers for your death along with the gunman.

Or

Lets say you're shopping and your kids are at school and some goof decides to hold up the store you're in and starts shooting and the thought of your kids never seeing you again flashes before your eyes, so you pull your gun out and shoot the bastard ending the situation.

You know what happens next don't you?
The police arrest you and charge you with murder because it's against the law to defend your own life.

You're screwed either way by the United States Government.

liftstation read my blog
Feb 28, 2008 | 2:52 PM

Take a look at the Texas statistics. In Texas you can openly display a gun. Hell, they have them in their pickup hanging in a gun rack out of the case in the rear window. Crime is lower in Texas per capita as a result. Criminals know that if they pull out a gun to commit a crime, there is high probability that they will be shot or killed during or after their crime. Your, Good ol boy, Bubba", sitting outside a store finishing you coffee. You see a crime with a gun in progress. The guy comes out of the store, he is fair game. You shoot the bastard and they will call you a hero and pat you on the back. Good chance they won't even bring you in for questioning. They get the info on the scene. I think this is how it should be. If your going to use a gun with criminal intent, you just opened season on yourself the second you pulled it out. Furthermore, the criminals family is not coming after you in court.

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Byron Harlan is a veteran of radio, local and network news. He has a B.A. in Political Science, an M.A. in Journalism and an M.B.A. Byron is from San Diego, plays electric and upright bass as well as mandolin and some guitar (very little) in a Chicago band. He's run eight marathons, two ultra-marathons and has his sights set on triathalons. He's married to Judi Harlan, who is a real estate agent and one heck of a looker.

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